The conversation of political solutions is on an x-axis that has dominated politics for a long time, during a period in which things have gotten worse.McCain/GOP ---------------------- Obama/DEMI know I'm not going to change any opinions around here for this election. When hit with so much propaganda, it's tough to introduce different ideas. What I'd like to suggest is that the solution to our problems is not from either candidate.Both support continuing in Iraq & Afghanistan. Both passed the bailout for Wall Street. Neither will discuss the Federal Reserve. Both candidates are wings of the same vulture.While I think both mean well, neither will address the core problems (Federal Reserve & its tie to Wall Street Banks and military complex). There's a conflict of interest due to the fact, both of their top 10 donors are nearly identical. The same special interest groups fund both sides of the aisle, leaving the American citizens' voices to eventually be unheard.As long as we the people participate in this duopoly, we won't recognize the man behind the curtain. I just want some people to be aware that there's a different perspective out there.There is a y-axis that offers a complete different conversation. For example, we libertarians have been against Drug Prohibition laws, the War in Iraq, the Patriotic Act, the Wall Street Bailout. I feel that we've accurately predicted how each policy would make America worse. The latest is the bailout, and we have people like Peter Schiff getting ridiculed the past years for his predictions of how the American economy is falling apart. He accurately predicted that government would make the mistake of bailing out the banks, creating the illusion of relief while worsening the problem to the point of endangering the US dollar. Here's the track record of some people I believe in.10/31/07 - Peter Schiff vs Mike Normanhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVDzQU311tc1/10/08 - Peter Schiff vs Steve Forbeshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3Vs_SB4SA02-27-08 - Ron Paul questioning Ben Bernankehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gldETRlhiXk&feature=relatedNov '07 - Jim Rogers Interview on US dollarhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=airxvVmGnqcIf you want videos of people of the other side, look up Henry Paulson & Ben Bernake. They've been pretty much wrong about everything, but they're the ones who will guide us through the turmoil they didn't see, they don't understand, and they caused. This is just as deja vu, like letting Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld run our foreign policy while being wrong about WMD, and us being greeted as liberators.Both McCain and Obama support this. Paulson and Bernake are from Wall Street and are Keynesian economists, they believe the Federal Reserve can control the economy. They either don't comprehend or just plain ignore what the Austrian economists are trying to explain to them. How they ignore the Austrian economists' ability predict how the economy will react time and time again is beyond me.We're at a crossroads, where we're in a situation where we will either apply the solutions of the Austrian economists, while suffering a short recession, or we can continue on the path of government management of the economy applied by the Keynesian economists. I believe that is the path we are on, and it will give us something from a severe multi-year recession (optimistic view) to a decade long depression (pessimistic view).For a wider scope on my views of our current situation, check out:http://www.campaignforliberty.com/Anyways, if you've read this far, you rock! Baby steps to restoring the republic.S FI'd suggest a different filter for some of the information you absorb. I apologize if I've mischaracterized you, but it seems like you're a 9/11 conspiracy theorist or something.If you buy into that, with their pseudo-science, then it's tough for me to reason with you. Skeptical Guide to the Universe has some old podcast exposing 9/11 truthers' gaps in logic. And I think PBS has a special on explaining 9/11.Sometimes a lot of incompetence can look like a conspiracy. The human mind is evolved to look for patterns, and you're seeing something that isn't there. Logic can help in unraveling the truth.

Yes. Absolutely.

I agree with you philosophy not necessarily your choices. But, in any case I'm not wasting my vote on politics as usual.

You make some great points!

We will need for the elder generations to die off. We still can't even get the populace to accept a half Black President, let alone the core of the corruption in our political system.... just a fact. It would be wonderful if more people opened their eyes, and read more. Too hard to expect any changes.. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8797525979024486145Above is the video link on Google Video, titled "The Truth & Lies Of 9/11" Mike Ruppert.

Back in the seventies there was a book called, "None dare call it a conspiracy". It told the story, basically, of the world banking system.The author suggested that if one were to look back into the history of recessions and depressions they would find a slightly irregular pattern unfolding, and it all stems from the banking system. He mentioned the loan/interest system and predicted another crash similar to the great one in '29. I believe the publishing date was 1974.Now I ask you, does this fit into your scenario?I'll agree with you 100% but our third party candidates don't have a chance because they can't get the publicity and don't have the backing of the big 2.I think what we need is less Federal government, the way it was at the start, with the Federal government keeping an army, and the states having more power. Put the government in the hands of the people and out of the hands of the big corporations and oil companies. There are many of us old country boys that can do a better job than a bunch of Wall street bankers and Philadelphia lawyers can do.AMERICA, first and foremost!